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(Please note: the bulk of the written material on this page was excerpted from a private correspondence with another researcher.)



hey there;



something strange has been taking place in boringham, for reasons unclear, but you might want to hear about it: i've gotten pretty familiar, over the days, with what chemsoup looks like when its being dissolved by org-tech. it has a very specific look to it, kinda hard to describe, but very recognizable. & despite the repeated & intense spraying happening here (im pretty sure our weather-systems are close enough to effect yours, too, & they prob use our skies here to mess with yours, by floating the stuff -- when they can) they haven't been able to get ANYTHING to stick, since the 4th. they didn't spray that day, go figure.
i've been talking with a guy, who says he has a kid here in bham, who is/was willing to let me 'host' a chembuster (device similar to WR's original cloudbuster, souped up a bit) & whose kid has been hanging on to it--------what this means: there's at least one CB in town here, maybe set up, maybe not, but its here in town. i personally, on my own, have set up a bunch of org-devices with external antennae mounted on them, & those devices might be effecting the weather too, but my suspicion is that the kid set up the CB once his dad started talking to him about it
i've also seen some graffitti scrawled around town ('chemtrails...') that tells me someone else here is hip to the phenomenon & maybe they're taking up the work too.....
i dont know anything for sure, but something weird as hell has just started here in bham & im not doing this one. ive made sure to keep my devices offline, so i can watch whatever's happening, & *someone* is really kicking some butt here
it used to be that one good tic-tac-toe grid of 9 lines or so would grey us out for a day or two; the past couple days, they lay out the grid overhead & its gone within the hour. i am not exaggerating. someone's doing something truly remarkable
my suspicion is that their CB is working interactively w/my own antenna-devices, or else the CB is just a superior butt-kicker on its own, but SOMETHING IS GOING ON & its not me this time heh



(I took some pictures; this is what it looks like when chemtrails are dissolving from the effects of orgonite:
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These images are unedited; once again, I used a pair of sunglasses as a filter & this accounts for some darkening in the corners of the photos.)



(Note the thick, sloggy soup at the bottom, on the horizon. This soup is the remains of the stew, pushed out in a circle above town. I believe it is from the effects of orgonite-technologies.)



i dont know how posting pictures works on this board, so ill try to put them as an attachment, or you can see http://groups.google.com/group/bellingha...rgone-does for the whole thing at once
ok i just tried that; we'll see if it works

Cheers Grintuk...

I looked into the chembuster several months ago, however I was living in London and had no space to build one, neither did I have the materials.

I've heard a lot of good things about them, even the ability to aim and mop up the chem clouds while drawing it accross the sky somehow, creating the effect of rubbing out the clouds bit by bit.

Interesting stuff, definitely something to look into.

Also, the way you've done your pictures seem fine to me, as long as they are accessible it shouldn't matter how they are displayed.

Kind regards.

I honestly admit I don't understand this stuff yet. I have seen the clouds dissolve in that manner though...

I am going to have to keep learning about this stuff. Thanks B!

thank you all for remaining open to something which is obviously NOT mainstream or even really openly admitted, by anyone anywhere

it took me a long time researching the NWO & related topics before i came across the subject, & what info i've been able to find on orgone etc has been pretty sparse, & much of it circulated by nutcases (to be completely honest)

in terms of the photos from the orig post, i should state that i dont know *for sure* what caused those particular atmospheric effects, but (important part here) that's exactly what it looks like, in my experience, when the orgone starts chewing through chemtrails

it took me a while to accept, & i had to make some of the tools myself, with my own hands, & play with them for months, keeping records all the way, before i could allow myself to really believe in the possibility that a glob of metal, plastic & rock could do anything, much less what's been claimed.

the best learning experience you could have would be to make some yourself or with friends & try it out; no picture would ever have been enough for me, i had to see it for myself

thanks, again, for being open to the possibility

Inspiring words for motivating me to build my own.

By the way, I found this site, it may be helpful to some.

Click here the scroll down

Also I have a few questions. What happens to the chemicals in the air? Are the visible trails in chemtrails themselve the chemicals, or are these visible trails some sort of fixer/holder which hold the chemicals/heavy metals up high to allow some degree of spread. Then as the visible trails disintegrates, the chems/metals fall?

I was just wondering, as the chembusters in my opinion certainly remove the visible part of the clouds, but what becomes of the chems?

I'll probably find those answers if I read into it a bit more.

Kind regards.

"How to Build A Chembuster to Disperse Chemtrails and Improve the Weather"

Yes, that site has the exact info I've been using---they are another group affiliated with ethericwarriors.com & cross-post from time to time; I am not a member of either site, nor do I claim to represent either. FWIW, I think they're both (probably) mostly-right.

http://educate-yourself.org/ct/goodbyects10jan02.shtml

"Also I have a few questions. What happens to the chemicals in the air? Are the visible trails in chemtrails themselve the chemicals, or are these visible trails some sort of fixer/holder which hold the chemicals/heavy metals up high to allow some degree of spread. Then as the visible trails disintegrates, the chems/metals fall?"

I haven't been able to get any good answer to that question, even from the man spearheading the 'movement' himself, Don Croft. (plz note, while the man may have his 'kook'-side, what he says, that i've been able to test for myself, has stood up to the rigors of repeatability) The best I've heard so far is that the toxic chemicals are rendered inert, but I wouldn't have any way of knowing, short of taking samples & sending them off to a lab----but I don't have those kinds of finances, & how do you get a sample of a chemtrail that's just evaporated? hmph.

There's a couple pdf's on my google-group site, 'chetrail-awareness-flier' 1 & 2, that I pulled off the web & which have the best info I've found so far.
From what I can tell, the sprays use 'ionization' (I think the same ionzation responsible for the 'Il Nino' winds that make ppl sick & grumpy---that's probably what DOR is) to spread apart so fast overhead---I believe the networked towers use ionization too, to 'push' the clouds around into position.

Sometimes, when a really BIG clump of chemspew is burning off, you can see 'rivers' overhead of the same milky-looking stuff---I think those are likely ionically-inert (i dont know the correct term---they've had their open valence-electron shells filled with the + ions from orgonite) clumps of the stuff drifting, probably clusters of metal-powders.
(I'M LOOKING INTO IT MORE & THE WHOLE ISSUE OF + OR - MAY BE A BIT MIXED UP----THE LAST PAGE OF VALLELY & AQUINO'S 'MINDWAR' DOCUMENT, THOUGH, DESCRIBES TO A TEE THE 3 AUXILIARY TECHNOLOGIES (BESIDES THE NETWORK-DISHES) YOU SEE MOUNTED ON THE TOWERS)

The chemclouds only look whitish when you get them at the right angle, from overhead or when the sun is on one side of you & the cloud on the other---I think the same angle you need to see a rainbow, theyre more brownish-grey, like smog.

I dont know what happens to the spew itself. My gut-feeling is that the metals become electrically inert but prob just rain down somewhere else eventually, the organic poisons probably are no longer a threat, but I cant say for sure.

I think the best solution will have something to do with making it so difficult for them, that they have to spray SO MUCH crap to get even a fraction of the effect they were hoping for, that it makes the skies too polluted to fly their damn planes any more & they HAVE to give up (oh yeah, I hear that the metals gunk up their engines & they have to reroute to avoid the really thick clouds---I think I've seen them having to do that, fly the passenger planes in low, almost scraping the rooftops, to get into the local airport) The other obvious solution is to tell everyone about it-----but most ppl just dont have enough background information to enable them to believe anyway so I go for the guerilla approach.

One last note, that I heard on the radio several nights ago: the droughts & firehazard across the midwest US & neighboring areas is being caused by 'the Jet-stream being blocked in Canada'. We notherners need to take up the reins, methinks.

You'd think globalists, being aware of things on a 'global' scale (like weather systems or the politics of war or international economics or the impact of religion etc etc etc ad nauseum) would be aware of the fact that, by putting evil into the system, they will only reap hardship for themselves alongside everyone else. hmph.

They tried spraying again this morning, 5:30 AM with the sunrise, the same planes I've seen gunking up the sky, flying back-n-forth-n-back-n-forth:
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(These pictures unfiltered & unaltered; they were taken with my digital camera.)
The chemtrails (& I've gotten familiar with what they look like) whispered out & faded away almost immediately.

(Update 1:50 PM - some haze on horizon; no trails.)
I suspect, & I'll say it again for the record, that someone here is running a chembuster; these pictures come about 4:15PM
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(These pictures were filtered through a pair of sunglasses, which darkens the edges a bit.)

I don't know, maybe its just 'atmospheric conditions' & 'local humidity' & all that totally-believable debunking, maybe it isn't. I've seen those same planes fly around & lay out cross-hatches & asterisks & all kinds of 'sky-writing'-tricks, & then watched those trails spread out into a flat haze; I've seen this with my own eyes. & the planes today, I believe, were the same, & they weren't able to do their job.

Cheers grintuk for your reply, I apologies for returning mine so late.

Unfortunately the subject of chemtrails seems so publically unpopular with the general populous, its hard to find that much on it from a scientific point of view. Not that it would help as it would most likely be biased, but it may give a slight better insight into what we're dealing with.

I've been unable to see if there have been any trails here, as it has been raining for the past week, usually spitting, but with the occasional downpour... strange for the time of the year.

Anyway, good work the photos and thanks again.

yes, it has been consistently fogged over here too.
i saw a quick glimpse, on the tv, of the weather-radar image for my region, near the canada/us border: it was a solid line of cloud-bank coming directly east, from somewhere around japan, moving in a big, perfectly-straight line. i'll go with the understatement & say only 'it looked odd'.
so, the blue skies we'd been enjoying may have disappeared, but there remains consistent 'holes' in the sloggy mists overhead, patches directly above the areas where i've deployed orgonite devices.
consistently.
'its a little weird.'

so, i've been fairly busy over the past weeks, ceaseless waging my tinfoil-hat campaign over here in sleepy boringham.

a friend or two has seen fit to entertain me in this regard & i've been able to get to some of the further outlying tower-installations on various hilltops surrounding my burgh. here's a fun one:
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this one was in town, right next to a high school. yee-hah.

my consistent blue-holes have been spreading out & the holes have begun to fill in to each other, as more orgone saturates the environment (i'm fairly convinced this is what's happening, based upon LOTS of experimentaion & observation, experimentation & observation, experimentation & observation.....)

they still send out the planes, swarming like hornets, spraying the gunk almost non-stop---we've even had a couple stealth bombers, a black helicopter, & a vintage WWII bomber snooping around lately---but the gunk doesn't stick around long. its neat to watch when they use the ionizing-poles (towers) to push the clouds around; it looks like this:
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this is a close-up of one line as its being pushed; imagine the whole sky cut up into segments like that---they give away the locations of the towers being used to scoot them around.

here's the neat thing, & i've watched it happen time & time again now until i'm fully convinced that it does indeed work this way...
when you go out 'chi-spiking' & you put some orgonite down next to a tower, the energy-field from the device 'takes over' the ionization-process used by the tower, & turns the whole thing into a giant standing orgone-generator.

the last tower i got, way out in the hills, developed a blue-hole immediately overhead within twenty minutes, & after about two & 1/2 hours, power-transformers all over whitcum county were blowing out.

I'm not saying the power-outage was connected, but i can imagine a scenario something like the following:

(CADET) - Captain, I've exceeded the safe power-levels & still the aerosol isn't diffusing as expected...

(CAPTAIN) - Up the levels!

(CADET) - But sir, we're already above safe levels!

(CAPTAIN) - You heard me, that's an order!

(CADET) - Sir, yes sir!

BZZZZZZZT!

no one ever said i didn't have an active imagination