honesty.org forum

There is not much I can do with the site, or even the board until I am ready to "market" a theme and campaign. I suspect that the only useful purpose for an "honesty international" site is likely contact management. I have been at this for well over a decade, and I can't figure out any topic that appeals to people in any capacity. So far nothing I have tested has worked, and nothing I have observed others doing along any similar lines has worked either. Nothing.

Ultimately, I don't think people can breach the greed issue. Money controls people to the core, and from my experience they just can't address the disease that is harming us, because their entire lives are geared toward the desperate plight to conform, so that they can get by and hopefully fit in. Prosperity and genuine wellness is no longer something most people can ever expect so they settle for what little they can get, hoping to retain their dignity and appear to be "making it". Yes, to get by these days you have to demolish your dreams and conscience and be very, very, very obedient to a system we all know to be terrible. God help you if you have a wife thrown into the mix. Most women appear to be convinced that appeasing the big brother system is their only hope of getting their dream house and a supposed life... so what little hope for change is usually killed off early. Families are enslaved. People are enslaved... and they are terrified of any controversy that might upset their neighbors and peers and bump them backward on the treadmill. (that's going nowhere anyway)

The only way out of this mess is to confront the greed issue that is ruining our planet, but people can't do that. They NEED to protect greed at all costs, because they are hoping to survive. They don't realize that their tolerance of greed that is really what is creating a world of evil... but humanity, acting as a misguided pack is not willing to change. Critics of greed such as myself are treated as the enemy and are shunned even though you all know I'm basically correct about all of this. You just can't deal with the awful reality of it all. If you too come out against greed, you too will be delegated to the doghouse... as I have. You don't want to end up like me, so you offer your obedience to a terrible financial system that you hate day by day. You're unhappy and you're never going to find true wellness but you're better off than the "fools" who rock the boat.

OK, so people can't do much about any of this... and the more I rant about these issues the more uncomfortable you get... because I AM right, and you are largely helpless. Humanity has kind of got itself into a bad situation. A bad contagion. It's the greed paradigm.

Well, how do we get out of this mess? I think I am going to have to figure out how to turn this site into a "contact management" site. I for one, really need to meet people who are willing to agree with this simple statement:

"GREED IS WRONG".

If you can agree with that and stand by it, then I'll talk to you. If you can't, I don't want to know you. Greed is pure evil simply because it is the antithesis of fair exchange. For a civilization to be healthy, we must trade fairly. If someone is greedy, they are actually a threat to the rest of us. They want as much as possible... and that leaves the rest of us with WHAT??? As little as possible.

The greed paradigm is the planet's disease and we will only change that by networking and keeping the theme simple. So, "GREED IS WRONG" is the simple statement that I am going to be using as an honesty test.

Work is slow, and I have to learn the web design on my own for now... and I'll work towards a networking site as best as I am able. I am horrified that people are apathetic and unwilling to take risks to discuss these issues and help out, but what can I do? I've had honesty.org for about 12 years now...since day one and nobody has contacted me for the domain, or demanding that I do better. Our planet is in a real rut if you ask me. I think people should be ASHAMED of what they have become, but if I pressure them on it, they just run away and they have done this repeatedly. People want to be treated with respect, but they also want to remain totally irresponsible and negligent at the same time. After all they have popes and politicians to absolve them of responsibility and shame. The average Joe simply doesn't have any "authority" to think for himself.

I guess what I am saying, is that people aren't interested in anything spontaneous and they aren't demanding any real change or reform from their current leaders. There is no interest or outcry for much of anything. About all I think I will be able to do is level a simple challenge. A YES OR NO QUESTION. Do you think GREED IS WRONG or not? Now I need some kind of list, so people who do agree can put their name on it... that is if they're not terrified of losing their "privacy" or standing up for something.

If anyone has the guts to agree, then we can start building a network. If anyone wants to help, please let me know. You can also post a comment if you like. For now, this is the direction that I will be working in. I would really like to meet people who agree with me that greed really IS wrong. I don't feel like talking to or debating with the SNAKE-MINDED creeps of the world any longer. I'm tired of their devilish greed based antics. They should see that the side effects of greed are a bigger detriment than a benefit to our entire planet.

tkra (Trevor) - Vancouver

[attachment=26][/color][/size][/font][font=Impact][size=small]Hello tkra….I was right in the middle of writing on one of your message boards and attempted to open a new tab in ‘Explorer 7’ and the dang thing just crashed and closed on me so all I had written was lost. So now, I will save on my clipboard as I go along and do a paste if this should happen again. THEN I forgot my password (or typed it incorrectly and got locked out of the site so I’m now waiting for access now that I’ve received a new one. Anyway, the reason I am writing is because I was very impressed with your site. I found it by accident and wish I could tell you the link I got it from but will let you know when I do. I am new to blogs but find myself compelled to “spread the word” as you say and when I listened to the audio file on your main page with JFK and our current dictator wannabe “Greedtard” (I love this one!), whom I call “Shrub”, I’ve decided to step up. I believe with you that greed is VERY wrong and the ramifications that go along with it. And perhaps join the dialog in your groups. As with most people I had been brought up by mass-media and mind-controlled through those working on establishing a New World Order. When I met my boyfriend he had done much research over the years on what the TRUTH out there really is and would send me articles and links, all the while telling me to WAKE UP! At first I thought he was paranoid and extremely unstable, and I would continue getting my nightly news from NBC, ABC or CBS all the while believing every word I heard. But after looking closer at what he was sending and telling me along with doing a little digging of my own I realized that I was being brainwashed along with 90%+ of the current American population. We no longer subscribe to any mass media and instead are on a quest to reverse any damage done that the ‘greedtards’ have instilled in us (although I’M the one that needs the reprogramming). I would be happy to help you in your quest to spread ANY words, as I believe as you that greed is the reason our country is in the state it is and we are being propagandized to believe otherwise. It is amazing the websites out there that question what is really going on and the hard work people have done to see to it that we know the truth about such things as 9/11, the current financial crisis and the decay fermenting within the American family amongst many, many other things. For now, I just wanted to introduce myself and let you know I’d like to come on board and contribute to something real for once in my life. I don’t work, though not by choice so I have time to research and post and perhaps steer you into directions where more truths are told with regard to the ‘greedtards’. Many, many people (including you and your site) are trying to wake us up and I commend their/your courage to speak the truth, especially in this day and age when we are not far from becoming a dictatorship. First of all I need to look through your site more and see more posts/opinions/facts, etc. I notice you’re still under construction too so I wish you luck fine-tuning things. And I pray I can cut and paste this Word doc into my response space on your site. Keep up the good work! MsTweetie [color=#000080]

I'm afraid I posted the same message twice in attempting to change the properties of my original. Mr. Trevor... could you please tell me how to set up my profile so that my threads/posts show up in HTML format? I am trying to update my profile and it shows HTML is turned off. I would like to be able to turn it on. Sorry for the duplicate and thanks for any help you can provide.

Hey there Trevor & the gang:

'Do it better!' There you go. j/k

I took a little whlie to compose my reply, because my thoughts on the matter are perhaps a little scattered & I wanted to put it as best I could, so here goes:

It begins, I believe, with a 'disconnect' from the body...
One learns, or is taught, to disregard the signalling-system built into the reptilian mind.
The r-complex, as I understand, processes certain mutually-exclusive signals. It is literally impossible to experience fear & love simultaneously: one or the other, the frequency/signal/hormone overwhelms the organ & that is the one reality you're allowed to experience.
Greed, I believe, is one of a triumvirate of related perverse emotions that dominate the uncultured mind & paralyze it. These evil three would seem to be terror, rage & greed; or, more accurately, the inverse-squares of fear, anger & lust. Fear by itself is responsible for preserving the organism; anger is the supplemental energy that assures our needs be met; lust (desire) keeps the species alive & makes things a little bit more fun. In & of themselves, none of these emotional states are inherently detrimental to ourselves or anybody, for that matter; its when these emotions are NOT acted upon or satisfied in a healthy manner that they begin to fold in upon themselves & cross-multiply, fermenting & becoming something toxic to the system. Anger at not having one's anger expressed or recognized becomes rage; fear of being afraid becomes a paralyzing terror; lusting after a feeling of desire turns into the acquisition of emptiness. You get the idea, or at least see perhaps where I'm going with it.
These three, in turn, are really only possible when is trapped in the shame paradigm, or guilt-squared.
Basically, guilt is the knowledge that one has done or is about to commit a wrong (yes, guilt can be a precognitive thing, & thank God for that); shame happens when one does nothing about it & then feels bad about feeling guilty. The knowledge that one has done something bad becomes the belief that they ARE bad. For most, this sensation is too powerful (who wants to live with that belief?) & they suppress it. Of course, nothing can be truly destroyed & so it lives on in the subconscious & works its evil little wrongs from the shadows...
Its a very, very subtle thing, related directly to almost-imperceptible bodily-sensations. I urge you to read that last sentence again.
Greed would not be possible without a numbing-out of guilt. There's nothing I can see inherently wrong with collecting stuff. Stuff is neat; you can do things with stuff. Stuff makes things possible.
Ignoring the knowledge that you would be hurting someone by taking their stuff is where things start to go wrong.
Then, caught in the grip of an emotion too powerful to experience & so numbed-out (this is shame's internal message: 'It is bad for me to feel as if I'm doing something bad'), the sum total of ignorance makes violence possible.
Violence is not possible where there is empathy. Violence (literal or metaphoric) is only possible in the presence of ignorance. I give props to Buddhism for underscoring that one, though I'm not any kind of orthodox Buddhist myself.
Examine the word 'Ignorance' -- root word: 'IGNORE'.
There's the disconnect.
& on that note, I'll-----

I'll soon be adding an update to the 'What Orgone Does' thread, & then I may stop. I believe my work here in Boringham is mostly done; getting to the surrounding areas will be a trick, & if there's anyone reading this who's in the Point Roberts/Orcas Island/Victoria Canada areas & wants to help, please do contact me & we'll network.

Granted, much of the 'Action Plan' is rather kooky-sounding; I can only assure you that it really DOES seem to be working. At the very least, I don't believe its hurting anything. Google 'orgonite' if you're not familiar with that to which I refer. (heh, thanks self-education in English language)

It really can make a difference.

Hello everyone. Sorry but I have been somewhat AWOL. I'm spending what time I am able to try and learn the technical stuff to try and get the contact management idea going...

I'll try to catch up.

[attachment=33]

]Hi again everybody... We all really don't know "what's next" but I have found a couple sites that I'll post in their appropriate thread. I'm in a hurry here and have been busy over the weekend. Was able to go with my boyfriend (hereinafter called Puddy-Tat) to the anti-war rally in DC yesterday. It started up across from the White House and ended up at the Capitol. A group called The A.N.S.W.E.R. Coalition sponsored it and there was a HUGE turn out and we was thrilled to participate altho kept "low" profiles and didn't participate at the "die-in" at the Capitol because we needed to get back to VA.
Gotta go eat dinner. Just wanted to get this out before I got timed out. Puddy-Tat is upset. I'm being rude. Back Later[font=Trebuchet MS][size=small][color=#000080]